whether it is programs through the rural utility services as part of the u.s. department agriculture and other programs -- programs. as not to get broadband out into rural areas abut how those programs are implemented. each one of them starting with the stimulus of 2009 was to be technology neutral. meaning anybody could take advantage. when it came time to implementation, the rules we used to implement those programs were essentially the traditional roles that the funding agencies have use for decades which favored one industry over the other. our members did not have access. when we look at what the sec is doing with universal service, many of the same potential problems exist which are our members have gone out with her private equity, sweat equity, blood, sweat, and tears and now they face situation and what we have seen before where taxpayer funds are being used to be given to other potential competitors to overbuild them. we think there's a problem with any implementation that allows for that kind of use of taxpayer funds to overbuild broadband systems th